Air Command 447 documentation/drawings and manual Needed. Please help!

[kwikplot]

I need either a copy or original Air Command 447 manual and or drawings! I will purchase!

Someone has some! Please help! PM me who ever has some that is willing to share.

Factory giving me bs

 

[Aerofoam]

I need either a copy or original Air Command 447 manual and or drawings! I will purchase!

Someone has some! Please help! PM me who ever has some that is willing to share.

Factory giving me bs

I was just in Lost Crutches the other day...
I have the original build manual and am in Tucson......

 

[kwikplot]

I was just in Lost Crutches the other day...
I have the original build manual and am in Tucson......

Do you have a 447 commander?

 

[kwikplot]

I would be willing to purchase you to sell or would certainly for a copy

Don 252-489-1242

 

[Aerofoam]

Do you have a 447 commander?

Yes, but it has been upgraded to a 503...
It came with the full manual, I don't want to get rid of it, but maybe we can figure out a way for you to use it....

 

[kwikplot]

Yes, but it has been upgraded to a 503...
It came with the full manual, I don't want to get rid of it, but maybe we can figure out a way for you to use it....

That would be great! I truly appreciate the help. Let's chat and figure out what will work both of us.

 

[kwikplot]

Was your ac upgraded from factory or mods done after? Upright or inverted mount

 

[Aerofoam]

Was your ac upgraded from factory or mods done after? Upright or inverted mount

It's still inverted, but I was talking to someone recently who said flipping it over was not a big deal.
I want to do that along with raising the seat about 4" and possibly switching to a tall tail.

 

[kwikplot]

From my understanding it's a big modifying activity. I like the tall tails and understand handling is much more responsive

 

[Aerofoam]

From my understanding it's a big modifying activity. I like the tall tails and understand handling is much more responsive

It's not just flipping the engine, the seat has to move forward and the engine moves aft a bit.
I have not done it, but was told there is a procedure that isn't too painful...
I need to do some calculations on the tall tail, I think the conversion will
lose enough weight to possibly not have to move the seat
forward, or reduce the movement to about 1 inch.....

 

[Doug Riley]

One change does beget others.

When you flip the engine upright, it also moves aft (because of the angled mast). This puts the prop under a lower portion of the rotor disk, and also very close to the prop. So the rotorhead must be raised via new cheekplates or a taller mast, joystick pushrods lengthened and tail tube (with rudder cables) also lengthened. You'll need a new flexshaft and lower unit for your prerotator. Lengthening the tail tube also increases the rock-back angle unless you move the tailwheel down. If you have the "crosswise" (Eipper style) muffler, you'll need to later it, too.